UN Brundtland Commission definition of "sustainable development" (from which the term "sustainability" evolved): "development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs."
We would like for Bill McKibben, Al Gore, John Kerry, Antonio Gutteres, Greta Thunberg and the rest of "environmentalist" movement worldwide to tell us with a straight face how digging up 500,000 of earth and using this much diesel and primary metals for 1 EV battery is "sustainable" and doesn't run 180 degrees counter to that definition.
John Lee, we intend to incorporate some of your analysis into a piece with a catchy title you and BF and your readers will chuckle at coming out in a couple weeks. GREAT WORK!
Bringing some clarity for those who have no idea about EVs. Excellent work. Simon Micheux also brings a lot of practical analysis to mining - c20yrs to open a new mine, and we're going to need an awful lot of mines if we are to go down this road to hell.
I have a iron law that guides my decisions and beliefs when it comes to top down initiatives.... they are all, I repeat, all net negative for society. The market economy certainly isn't perfect but it almost infinitely more beneficial than Govts.
Also check out the electrolyte which is used in li-ion batteries: it is a hell of a substance. Most commonly used electrolytes are: ethylene carbonate, dimethyl carbonate or diethyl carbonate. All of them are toxic and extremely flammable liquids. Dimethyl carbonate for instance has flash point of 17 °C (63 °F), is lighter than water but has fumes which are heavier than air (it is very hard to extinguish - check out Tesla's fires). Li-ion batteries are prone to thermal runaway reaction (when heated above 60 °C). EV's are positioned as safer than petrol vehicles but due to how flammable electrolytes are the opposite is true: just check the statistics on the numbers of fires of EV vs petrol - you will be surprised.
Nowadays, by saying the right things, attending the right conferences, graduating from the right schools and toeing the right lines, one can find himself head of a national energy department, or government energy minister, without knowing a single thing about what you're talking about.
If EVs were so damn good, we would just buy them. They arent, so we are being forced to
If markets don't see the benefit of EVs, we must DEMAND that carmakers produce them. Consumers will buy these green cars, but first we must redistribute the nation's wealth to make them cheap. All hail Al Gore.
This is much closer to what is needed for a life-cycle cost analysis, and sizing of feasibility.
THANK YOU BF and John Lee!!!!
We call this "saving the planet to death".
UN Brundtland Commission definition of "sustainable development" (from which the term "sustainability" evolved): "development that meets the needs of the present without compromising the ability of future generations to meet their own needs."
We would like for Bill McKibben, Al Gore, John Kerry, Antonio Gutteres, Greta Thunberg and the rest of "environmentalist" movement worldwide to tell us with a straight face how digging up 500,000 of earth and using this much diesel and primary metals for 1 EV battery is "sustainable" and doesn't run 180 degrees counter to that definition.
John Lee, we intend to incorporate some of your analysis into a piece with a catchy title you and BF and your readers will chuckle at coming out in a couple weeks. GREAT WORK!
Bringing some clarity for those who have no idea about EVs. Excellent work. Simon Micheux also brings a lot of practical analysis to mining - c20yrs to open a new mine, and we're going to need an awful lot of mines if we are to go down this road to hell.
I have a iron law that guides my decisions and beliefs when it comes to top down initiatives.... they are all, I repeat, all net negative for society. The market economy certainly isn't perfect but it almost infinitely more beneficial than Govts.
Also check out the electrolyte which is used in li-ion batteries: it is a hell of a substance. Most commonly used electrolytes are: ethylene carbonate, dimethyl carbonate or diethyl carbonate. All of them are toxic and extremely flammable liquids. Dimethyl carbonate for instance has flash point of 17 °C (63 °F), is lighter than water but has fumes which are heavier than air (it is very hard to extinguish - check out Tesla's fires). Li-ion batteries are prone to thermal runaway reaction (when heated above 60 °C). EV's are positioned as safer than petrol vehicles but due to how flammable electrolytes are the opposite is true: just check the statistics on the numbers of fires of EV vs petrol - you will be surprised.
Green: a web of cons in an ecosystem of grift, deceit, and corruption.
Nowadays, by saying the right things, attending the right conferences, graduating from the right schools and toeing the right lines, one can find himself head of a national energy department, or government energy minister, without knowing a single thing about what you're talking about.
If EVs were so damn good, we would just buy them. They arent, so we are being forced to
Curious what you make of this study that appears to be advocacy scholarship to me.
If markets don't see the benefit of EVs, we must DEMAND that carmakers produce them. Consumers will buy these green cars, but first we must redistribute the nation's wealth to make them cheap. All hail Al Gore.