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Rationalista's avatar

More expensive, highly engineered, extremely low entropy collectors to grab high entropy random heat energy just won’t work (It’s SCIENCE!). This is just the offshore wind boondoggle all over again. Littering the ocean floor with wires and machines will be terrible for the marine ecosystem and we will be left wanting in the end.

Saying they can do it for $78/MWh is pure fantasy and can’t possibly include maintenance, short lifetimes, etc. Wishcasting of the highest order.

Nuclear that costs $98/MWh is a crime. It should be $1-10/MWh. Although I would bet even $98 looks good in the UK right now...

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The ocean is an electrolyte solution. It corrodes metals quite aggressively. (A big difference from freshwater hydro plants.) This can be slowed by using plates made of rapid corroding metals like zinc. Zinc plates are standard on boats for this purpose. The ocean will thin plates on ships, particularly where there is vibration. Any metal object in the ocean is on a clock. The ocean is contaminated with tiny flakes of ship paint all over the world, because it's just another surface for life and chemistry to attack.

Sessile sea life colonizes anything placed in the water. If life doesn't bore into it, or grow in narrow crevices (that can start microscopic) it glues itself to the surface. Barnacles, mussels, seaweed, anemones, etc, colonize any surface. The faster the flow of water over that surface the better, as long as life can land and stick long enough to take hold. Tidal flows are perfect for this. Why? Because water flow brings nutrients and oxygen, and there are periods every day when the water is still and things can land and glue on.

There's a method from the tropics for making reinforced coral blocks fast by passing electrical current through the insulated wires in the water. They higher the voltage the better. Sea life doesn't just detect it, it uses the energy in its cells. We do the same. Our mitochondria are fuel cells that burn hydrocarbons and oxygen, putting out CO2 and water, creating an electrical potential out cells use to make ATP which is an energy currency in the cell. But life exists that harvests electricity directly. It stands to reason that something will evolve to bypass all the complex chemical processes cells use to make electric potential if there is current flowing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_bacteria

FWIW- there are deep sea cold water corals, and life isn't static. Life is constantly evolving, as we have seen with this still current pandemic. If anything could evolve a coral that thrives in upper ocean cold water, it would be miles and miles of high voltage AC current cables in the ocean.

Aside from such problems, harvesting tidal and ocean current flow for energy is great. It was proposed way back in the 1950's.

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